The team behind the Matrix open standard and real-time communication protocol has announced the release of its second major version, bringing end-to-end encryption to group VoIP, faster loading times, and more.
  • NX2@feddit.deEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    Matrix is great as a discord alternative, I’d just wish it wouldn’t light my Server on fire every time I open element. Like I can live stream 4K to multiple people over that thing, but reading messages takes 30 seconds of fan screaming?

    • Stephen304@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      For this reason I hope the element X rewrite also replaces element on desktop eventually. The element X beta android app is so much snappier than element with the new sliding sync, it’s supposedly 6000x faster but it just feels on par with signal or any other performant app, not being impacted by how many rooms you’re in or how big those rooms are anymore.

      • u_tamtam@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Sliding sync is just your client running on the server. Now your server’s load is even worse. If you self host, well, too bad. Be a New Vector customer I guess?

    • u_tamtam@programming.devEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Don’t ever bring this to the people in charge or you might be told “sorry for that” “but now it’s been fixed, deployed any week now” “you are a liar, this has never been true” and “it doesn’t really matter for the general case” either in the same post or few responses apart. Matrix has been in a permanent state of unstable mess, and the leadership disingenuous attitude made me lose hope that this will ever change. More people should start reading through the fanfare and superlative blog posts, which, admittedly is the thing they do the best and much better than the other projects out there.

    • tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.ukEnglish
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      1 year ago

      It still has the issue that joining a popular channel can bury a server for a couple of hours whilst it downloads the entire history since it was created (hillariously trying to connect to thousands of servers that no longer exist… the error log was… impressive).

      The new protocol was announced on here recently but synapse is stull running the old protocol with a proxy in front and the proxy just means clients can log off whilst it’s updating, it doesn’t fix the issue.

      It’s probably fine if you don’t federate it, but I could just use my IRC server for that…

    • u_tamtam@programming.devEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Matrix misrepresenting its users base… By counting users that ever connected once, test accounts, spam accounts, bot accounts, bridged accounts, single ever used nicks… as a marketing strategy to give an illusion of relevance… that would be a first! /s

    • wombatula@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Yeah seems really weird that a service with 2/3rds or more of the users than Discord is completely unknown to me or any of my fellas on the group discord when I asked them.

      Can’t tell if I am falling out of touch, the service is aimed at a completely different demographic than me, or these numbers are bullshit.

      • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’m going to assume the bridged users count as well, but a lot of it is going to be private organizations.

        Element is used by entities where safety of communications is critical, like NATO, the United Nations, the US Department of Defense, the German Armed Forces, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the UK Ministry of Defense, and the French Government.

      • synicalx1@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        It’s used by a lot by organisations who want an alternative to Slack/Teams. Have a look at the client list for Element, arguably the biggest Matrix client/platform - https://element.io/

        And as someone else mentioned there’s also a huge influx of IRC folks especially in the last year.

      • skulkingaround@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        A lot of IRC communities migrated, and it’s pretty much the go to option now if you want live communications for your project or org, but don’t want something proprietary. It’s a pretty good replacement for Teams or Slack.

        • u_tamtam@programming.devEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Many communities went back to IRC, though, because Matrix still is a hot mess, and the most visible ones which didn’t (Mozilla, KDE, …) are not hosting their own Matrix instance but letting New Vector do that for them, which makes in practice a disproportionate amount of users and accounts be managed by a single organization. I do think it’s better than discord, but barely so.

      • Stantana@lemmy.sambands.netEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        I think they’re aimed at very different demographics. In my experience, Discord is full of people who call themselves server admins when they moderate a group while Matrix-admins is actually self-hosting their own servers.

  • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    0·
    1 year ago

    I tried the app but it doesn’t even have a way to register an account. Nor any directions in doing so. I went to matrix.org, nothing there either. I had to Google it. Which led me to app.element.io. So I tried to register and it failed. I’ll give it another year to develop and see how things are going.