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I basically quit Reddit cold turkey. Rather than watch the slow, sad decline of its communities by going along with Reddit management, I’d advocate them to make the transition to the Fediverse now rather than later. The /retrogaming/ community (I need to drop the /r/ for obvious reasons) did this and is doing quite well for itself on Lemmy and Mastodon.
If you could link to their lemmy so other retrogmaing lovers can sub and follow, that’d be amazing!
How would this even work? How are they going to stop brigading, bots, low effort spam crap for upvotes, massive reposting, etc? How will this actually increase quality of content?
Also: this would mean giving reddit your actual information, right? How else are they going to pay you? Or are they going to try using crypto and nfts?
It sounds like a terrible idea to me, tbh. Maybe they should start with paid moderators to deal with all the extra spam, crossposting, brigading and bots that will result from this move.
To ensure the authenticity and security of the program, contributors will need to provide verification information, including their email addresses, personal details, and tax and bank account information.
Yikes²
You’ll be paid in NFT Snoos.
In all seriousness, this leaves the site wide open to exploitation in the pursuit of monetary gain.
Ultimately that will lead to a degredation of content (even more so than now).
paid in NFT Snoos
I smell an exit scam
They already have crypto and NFTs. Take a look at Reddit Moons and the NFT Avatars
I never really cared about them tacking on a bunch of useless shit on top of Reddit. As a third-party-app and old.reddit user I kind of figured that if they monitized that piece and let me hang out in the underbelly then it wasn’t really a problem. Why not have the normies subsidize the denizens of the old reddit, it’s not like we aren’t using adblock anyway.
But now that they’ve killed off the API it’s only a matter of time before the come for old.reddit so I’m out before they get around to it.
My decision to move here looks better the time goes by
The concept behind the program is straightforward. Redditors who receive substantial gold and karma from other community members can potentially convert these virtual rewards into real-world money that can be cashed out.
sigh, that’s desperation. This means that the discussion on Reddit will not be natural or organic, it will cease to be human. Redditors will be like dogs, where they shitpost and post comments that everyone agrees with so they can make money, basically doing what the master tells them in order to get their treat. Reddit as we know it will cease to exist.
I agree, though I also believe that Reddit is like that already.
It is like that already, but try, if you can, to imagine how bad it will get if the incentive isn’t fake internet points, but actual money.
Bot farms.
Soon on YouTube “how to make money on reddit”, “top 10 comments that will get you 9999 upvotes”
This!
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
We did it, Reddit!
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
“Easy trick for TOP GOLD Reddit admins don’t want YOU to now!”
Worse, I don’t think it’s desperation. I think the senior leadership genuinely sees this as a good idea. That implies they view reddit no longer as a series of communities that organically develop and more as a social network that should pursue reach and “quality” content.
To me, that’s way worse than desperation. That’s like the exact opposite of what reddit was stated to be when I first joined.
We’ll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive.
-Steve Huffman-
That’s like the exact opposite of what reddit was stated to be when I first joined.
It is exactly the opposite of what Aaron Swartz created.
Basically Quora.
Quora started to pay people to ask questions, rather than reward the people who put efforts into answering.
I skipped that stupid thing instantly.
“I caught my 12 year old son playing Minecraft so I smashed all his things and beat him. Was I wrong?”
That was roughly one of the so-called questions I saw on Quora recently. Absolute garbage.
That explains why content quality over there is so damn bad, I didn’t know about that before since I skipped the Quora train.
Not sure if there are any ex Redditors old enough to remember the Sydrah debacle?
In which a Reddit user and mod of several communities advertised on LinkedIn that they were ‘a social community manager who had pull in several online communities’ (“has pull” is a direct quote the rest is paraphrased) and that they could be paid to influence the narrative in these communities.
Someone doxxed them and leaked the LinkedIn profile and a vast swathe of the community cried out in horror and revulsion. Oh how the bacon narwhaled on that day!
She’s still a mod of 2xC and at least a few dozen other subs.
Looks like Reddit just legitimised her now ancient play really. It’ll be a website full of Sydrahs after this.
Everyone loves to joke about how moderators are “jannies” and “free labor” but let’s be honest, all the power mods that have control of dozens of subs are making money off it. Political/news subs have loads of value to groups with agendas, and non-political subs still have value to corporations that want to advertise their products.
The only thing Sydrah did that was unique was getting caught.
Wholeheartedly agree.
I always apply the adage: ‘if it can be done it is being done’.
Let me get this straight.
People make content, bots up vote content that aligns with their objectives. People get paid for up votes.
So… People are working for bots now?
I think you forgot a crucial step… Bots steal actual content, then direct other bots to down vote and report said original content, and then direct said bots to upvote the stolen content.
You’re working for the people who run the bots. Push the narrative and you’ll get paid.
Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
Again, the “Barbie” movie is the only allowed corporate interest on Lemmy, only in theaters July 21st.
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
And we thought bots and karma farming were bad before.
Yeah, this new thing will be botted to hell lol.
If they can’t make themselves “profitable” when the content is free they’re sure as hell not going to be profitable if they pay for it
If you think karma whoring is bad now …
Ok God damnit… Someone fucking explain the shitty ass chat filter to me please? I don’t know what was removed from dudes comment, but I’d kinda like to know if anything will get me banned before I go fucking around and get settled in here…
Sorry bud, not picking on you personal or anything like that, just a FNG from baconreader trying to sort shit out ;)
Edit- not a single “removed” here? I got the word removed removed from another comment…
More edit- yeah that word lol… Can I get banned for bypassing? Like if I say b***h? Can I get a warning or some shit here please?
You’re on .ml, they have a filter. The thing that was removed was w h o r e.
Thanks for clarifying :)
I guess the filter is looking for non-woke stuff? Whole lotta cuss words not filtered there…
Gonna guess things the n word, the b word, the r word, etc will be what gets the filter.
Should I switch to .world? It was borked when I went to create my account so I went with .ml, and I didn’t really expect to see any functional differences like comments getting filtered :)
Huh?
I’m the stupid new guy man, just pushing buttons to see what happens is all :)
Imagine an environment where users are getting paid for gold award content and the moderators are still unpaid for all the work they do behind the scenes.
With bot detection going away, I can see programmers making several bots to manipulate this to make money, and lots of it, through many accounts.
Meanwhile, yikes, they are totally forgetting the real users. I’m a few months, there will be at least a 50% chance that comment or post you are replying to is a bot.
I’m a few months, there will be at least a 50% chance that comment or post you are replying to is a bot.
It already feels this way. A lot of them are the most basic comments or don’t make any sense at all.
Part of why I liked the Apollo app was that it could show account ages. There’d be a post from a 23-day-old account, and a heavily-upvoted thread with witty comments from a 24-day-old account, replied to by a 22-day-old account, replied to by a 27-day-old account.
It really sucks because I’m working on stuff I’d love to share with people, but sharing content on reddit would feel dirty. I haven’t done anything but lurk the stable diffusion subreddit using Brave in over a month.
Could also have been old-timers that have had accounts repeatedly banned by admins for bullshit reasons. But yeah more likely just bots lol.
Or it’ll end up going the same way as Quora. People just churn out answers for money, irrespective of whether they’re helpful or all that relevant at all.
Removed by mod
Forgetting everything that’s happened so far, and taking that statement at face value… That is exactly how things should have always worked…
Make *****, get eXpOsUrE. How in the hell did the internet turn into we pay for access; we use it to socialize, share art, ideas, answers, make connections. And now they are not only making money selling our data, but we’re expected to pay for their crap content they scraped from our own data?
Reddit must be super nervous and losing a lot of traffic. Burn baby, burn!
I feel like I got out just at the right time!
It’s such a shame that everything has to be commodifed. Being on lemmy, free of ads and financial incentives is such a breath of fresh air. Community and sharing ideas shouldn’t be driven by money.
I agree, but unfortunately it does cost money (way more than you think) to host something online, even a small Lemmy instance. The more traffic you have, the more it costs. The same goes for time spent on admin, which shouldn’t be free unless it’s a passion project.
You can say the same for lots of things though. I think if we want to take back control of discourse then we have to accept the cost.
An example from a world I understand - putting on and taking part in free parties (in the UK and the rest of Europe) has a financial and time cost. But people put on these incredible festivals not for financial gain, and not to even break even as there’s no charge to get in, but because they love music and community. Some things are more important than profit.
All it would take is one left-leaning billionaire to fund server costs for Lemmy instances with no strings attached, and we’d never have to worry about it being commodified. C’mon George Soros, where are you at? It would be pocket change for you.
So many far right billionaires putting so much money into their hateful, bigoted causes, while progressive causes seem to die on the vine due to lack of funding.
Problem is, you don’t become a billionaire without massive amounts of exploiting people for profit, and someone like that isn’t going to support Lemmy since there’s no profit to be had. There are no left-leaning billionaires, only neo-liberal billionaires.
I hope he wasn’t serious lol, he even has three arrows on his profile pic. It’s such a corporate thing to say.
This looks like the way to go full Digg. With payment comes verified accounts, and probably further segmentation of accounts with higher priority than normal accounts. The idea being the paid accounts are professionals with high karma, therefore assumed to provide better content and become prioritized.
This is exactly the way of thinking that destroyed Digg. Although this is tweaked compared to what Digg did, the basic idea is the same, and the outcome will very likely look somewhat similar. The quality of content will fall off a cliff, and the userbase will quickly evaporate.
Even if they never go through with this scheme, it shows the leadership of reddit has lost their perspective, and sense of the community shaping that originally made reddit good.
it shows the leadership of reddit has lost their perspective, and sense of the community shaping that originally made reddit good.
Most importantly, they forgot their history and why Reddit succeeded when Digg failed.
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.
Man, you don’t never go full Digg. Everybody knows that.
It’s transactional. Community dies when relationships become transactional.
Lol “third party API is too expensive”…but let’s give out money to users for fun
Sorry who or what the fuck the Tech Times?
