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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    Buddy, if you not only think that “tankie” is a meaningful political label, but that they’re a powerful faction in the West that is taking over movements, you are the most tamed, housebroken socdem in the world.

    Why tankies are bad, i dont have to elaborate on, do i?

    Of course you don’t; “tankies” are bad for the same reason that “pinkos” and “commies” are bad, they are all synonyms, after all.

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      12 days ago

      Yes, yes, I’m sure Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and all of your favorite dictators agree that tankies are wonderful people.

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            12 days ago

            Eh, Libertarian is close enough. Clearly you have the same problem not using lazy strawmen.

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              12 days ago

              Yeah, what’s funny is that your commie-adjacent ideology says that people like I are a problem that needs to be dealt with.

              My ideology encourages me to just leave you the fuck alone, as long as you leave me alone.

    • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      12 days ago

      Ooooh i understand, to you anyone that calls for a violent revolution is a “tankie”. And anyone that doesnt want a violent revolution is a “moderate social democrat”. Did i get that right?

      Then yes to you i am a social dem because i know that threw violence you only make yourself seem to be the enemy of peace, stability and democracy. Creating an easy enemy image to rally against. Thus creating a hard wall against anything that is pro workers. You know, litterly how the Red Scare.

      But that isnt what a tankie is for me. For me a tankie is someone appologetic to and or denial of the horrible attrocities, undemocratic and dictatorial ways, supression and crushing demonstrations with force, imperialism, denying of freedom in all ways, speech, publication, travel and more, enrichement of them and their ruling class buddys on the exploitation of the workers, not caring about the workers and their lifes, and more, by mao’s and current china, north korea, vietnam, soviet union and its puppet states (poland, east germany, romania, hungary, czechia, slovakia, slovenia, bulgaria, albania), yugoslavia, cuba and others.

      And yes i saw you are from .ml, meaning you probably fall under that label too.

      But you know what is even worse than people like tankies? People like you, discussing terminologie and hardening on political ideological labels and names rather than discussing and coming up with a long term solution to a problem.

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        12 days ago

        No, you didn’t get that right.

        Then yes to you i am a social dem because i know that threw violence you only make yourself seem to be the enemy of peace, stability and democracy.

        Yes, that does indeed sound like a completely tamed social democratic perspective: a complete commitment to fanatical pacifism and a naive belief that capitalists won’t oppose you if you can just prove how dang peaceful and docile you ar.

        But that isnt what a tankie is for me. For me a tankie is [proceeds to describe every serious communist]

        So literally anyone who is remotely sympathetic to any leftist project anywhere.

        And yes i saw you are from .ml, meaning you probably fall under that label too.

        Yup, and there it is: Tankie as a purely online insult used for people from the wrong website.

        But you know what is even worse than people like tankies? People like you, discussing terminologie and hardening on political ideological labels and names rather than discussing and coming up with a long term solution to a problem.

        Oh sorry, I didn’t realize you were “discussing and coming up with a long term solution” when you were ranting about “tankies” having to much presence and calling for complete pacifism. Oh, and clearly you don’t think ‘tankies’ are that bad if you think people who are sticklers for terminology are ‘worse.’

        • YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          For me a tankie is [proceeds to describe every serious communist]

          Wtf? Are you an agitator or a poser or what? Did you even read what they said? This is what you call “describing every serious communist”, emphasis mine

          But that isnt what a tankie is for me. For me a tankie is someone appologetic to and or denial of the horrible attrocities, undemocratic and dictatorial ways, supression and crushing demonstrations with force, imperialism, denying of freedom in all ways, speech, publication, travel and more, enrichement of them and their ruling class buddys on the exploitation of the workers, not caring about the workers and their lifes, and more, by mao’s and current china, north korea, vietnam, soviet union and its puppet states (poland, east germany, romania, hungary, czechia, slovakia, slovenia, bulgaria, albania), yugoslavia, cuba and others.

          What of the bolded portions are you claiming to be a part of communism?

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            11 days ago

            Wtf? Are you an agitator or a poser or what? Did you even read what they said?

            Yeah, you just listed off every single example of AES and said anyone who isn’t extremely opposed to them is a tankie.