• FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Does Google even give results that aren’t AI generated? I can only get results I want if I use my native language or add site:reddit.com in the end.

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    Oh thank God. I’ve been having too much fun with generative technology and feeling way too safe. I need someone like Google to remind me that you have to pay for freedom. For a moment there, I almost had a happy thought! Terrifying…

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    I’m over the era of ads dominating our lives. I know not everyone can do so, but I’m willing to pay a fair rate for a fair search and AI service. If we have to continue to live in this system then I think we should better enable competition in the tech space and stop some of these mafia business monopoly tactics.

    Some companies are just disgustingly greedy. I pay for a new TV, for example, and that thing is trying to download ads and report my usage non-stop and I paid fairly to own the device. I’d support any political party that actually wants to protect consumers from the nonsense business pull.

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        Thanks for pointing that out, I’ve been trialing their service and so far I think it works well.

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        yet another Kagi shiller.

        they are still pulling results from Bing. they are partially powered by their own engine, but it has a minor database of sites when compared to Bing.

        And needing to have an account is just horrible for privacy.

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          No it’s not horrible for privacy it’s literally just for billing which payment can be made anonymously too. They don’t even verify the email address you use. So much misinformation in this thread. Go Google your info before you present it as fact.

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            it is a fact. you have to be logged in to do a search or use an API key which directly associates your search query with your account.

            Let’s say you don’t give them a real email, that’s good. Maybe you’re using Tor or a VPN and they don’t get your IP. And somehow you manage to make your payment anonymously. That’s great.

            Well, Kagi is still getting all your search queries which are directly associated with one account. We don’t have their server’s code. We don’t know how or what are they logging. They can claim whatever in their privacy policy, I don’t care. A single entity is receiving all your search queries directly linked to your pseudonymous account. This gives them a vast amount of data about the person using it, even if they do not know who you are, probably very sensitive information too.

            Let’s make a huge assumption and assume they are not correlating your search queries and they do not use this information for anything. Well, a third party actor with access to their servers could very well make use of this vast amount of personal data, whether it is a government, their hosting provider, a malicious actor, a security breach, etc.

            And that’s considering the best case in which you were covering your tracks hiding your IP all the time and making anonymous payments, which, being honests, most Kagi users don’t do. So yeah, Kagi is a privacy nightmare.

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      I’m willing to pay a fair rate for a fair search

      Best I can do is you paying me and I still give you ads mixed in.

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    Some of my friends just switched to DDG just because Google isn’t reliable anymore since the results became only ads

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      DDG isn’t all that great anymore either because they get their results from Bing - which has also gone to shit. Any alternative search providers that gets their results from Google or Bing (which is most of them) are all nearly worthless now, IMHO. The ones that operate their own engines and crawlers, such as Kagi, are the ones that give results like we used to get before enshittification.

      But then again, with the death of web forums and everything being consolidated into a small handful of sites, site:reddit.com is required for almost every search query I do these days. If I want to read something written by an actual human being then I need to look up via Reddit or else results are just 98% AI-generated SEO garbage. Like I wish I was making that up but the majority of search results now are actual throwaway trash; pages upon pages of completely nonsensical generated rubbish.