I’m sure we all know about the low audience scores given to The Acolyte. Rotten Tomatoes was sitting down at 14% since around the third episode, and was that low up until at least the last episode. Now that it’s nearly a week out from the season finale, I figured I’d take another look.
The Rotten Tomatoes score has gone up to 17% and other review platforms have gone up a bit also.
So I decided to read through a few of the recent ones. Here are two examples:
The showrunners accuse fans of “review bombing” but are apparently just fine with artificial review boosting. I saw a bunch of these double reviews and nearly every single one talked about things like diversity, a “fresh take”, production values, etc, all in that typical bland corporate-speech type of language.
Whereas the negative reviews are detailed and specific without ever getting into racism, bigotry, sexism, or other things fans are often accused of. If you read through the negative reviews they are often well thought out criticisms of the story itself and the quality of acting.
I just wanted to bring this fake review boosting to the community’s attention. If you enjoyed the show, that’s awesome. But it’s dishonest to dilute honest and fair criticisms of a show.
I liked The Acolyte. It was not at the level of Andor or The Mandalorian, though it was dramatically better than The Book of Boba Fett. It was a solid enjoyable show and I particularly enjoyed how it expanded the canon universe by giving some love and attention to non-Jedi Force traditions (the Sith and the witches). Anecdotally that’s broadly what I hear from the Star Wars fans I know in real life too.
The attention people give to online ‘fan’ review scores always baffles me. Everyone knows these are meaningless. It’s a sad reality that most high-profile shows in our genre with prominent women, non-white and/or LGBT+ leads get review-bombed to death - we all know this. And I expect all shows will get review-boosted, because why on earth wouldn’t you do this if you were in charge of the marketing operation when it’s practically free marketing? So the ‘fan’ scores on Rotten Tomatoes etc are just the balance of a meaningless positive number against a meaningless negative number.
It’s ok to be outraged by “sad reality”, OP doesn’t have to just accept it.
It’s a sad reality that most high-profile shows in our genre with prominent women, non-white and/or LGBT+ leads get review-bombed to death - we all know this.
Edit: ok, yes. I missed the part that said “genre”
I see you bought into the propaganda.
I’m sorry, were you under the impression that RuPaul’s Drag Race belongs to the sci-fi and fantasy genre…?
The reason I specified our genre is that sci-fi and fantasy audiences skew whiter and maler than the general public, and a vocal minority of online sci-fi and fantasy fans (who are deeply unrepresentative of the wider fanbases) make it their business to be vocally abusive about any online content that they consider not to be white and male enough for their liking.
I bet the negative reaction is a little more nuanced than “girls bad. Non-white people weird”, and I worry you’re generalizing.
Acolyte was way better than Book of Boba Fett and better than Ahsoka. It’s a 6/10 show or something like that. Pretty unremarkable. I feel like it was aimed at a younger demographic. Loved seeing lots of expanded universe stuff being brought into canon, like the witches and non-Jedi/non-Sith Force traditions. I liked the 60s/70s aesthetics. Always nice to see the other side of the Jedi, too. Willing to bet at least 50% of the reviewers online never watched it. Basing your opinions from online review scores is unfortunately now a total waste of time.
Acolyte was way better than Book of Boba Fett and better than Ahsoka. It’s a 6/10 show or something like that.
Boba Fett was pretty bad, and Ahsoka was decent. It definitely had major problems, but the aspects of Ahsoka herself were pretty spot on and for her character.
The Acolyte is hands down one of the worst shows I’ve seen. I feel bad for Manny Jacinto because he actually killed it. And Daphny Keen was awesome too. Her saber battle was well done.
But the story was just awful.
Willing to bet at least 50% of the reviewers online never watched it.
I read through a LOT of the reviews. I hadn’t seen a single one that was overly generic, and all of them had a genuine and valid point.
Only a few of the positive ones seemed genuine, the rest sounded like they went through a corporate marketing team.
I guess you and I have a different interpretation of the story, because I felt it was pretty fun. A bit predictable, but a refreshing change from the usual star wars fare. 1/10 reviews that say “the story makes no sense” are, imo, displaying either bad faith or a relatively low media literacy.
It’s not for everyone, and that’s fine. But it’s a culture war thing now, and not being judged on its own merits by most people. You are not immune to propaganda.
1/10 reviews that say “the story makes no sense” are, imo, displaying either bad faith or a relatively low media literacy.
It doesn’t make sense because the motivations are all over the place. Mae and Osha switch sides at the drop of a hat (all while Amandala’s expression never changes, Amandala’s acting was abysmal). The whole “we must take the girls to protect them” plotline was just empty.
The depiction of the Jedi was incredibly forced also (no pun intended).
But it’s a culture war thing now
And that’s no one’s fault but Disney’s. No one cared about the gender or sexual preferences of the actors. However, the show runners decided to make that a large part of their marketing and talking points.
Avery Brooks said it best. Just replace what he says with “being queer” or “lesbian” (for the Acolyte).
There was this inclusion speech seminar everyone at my company had to go through, and mind you this was over a decade ago at this point. I originally thought it was incredibly stupid and there’s nothing I could learn from it as I always treat everyone with respect.
But the one thing that has always stuck with my was the way speech can impact your attitude or your perceived attitude. Instead of saying “that’s a blind person” you should say “that person has blindness”. It’s a subtle point but when you study other languages you learn that word order can change the emphasis to a degree that doesn’t exist in English.
What I’m saying with all of this is that good characters aren’t written by starting with a distinctive aspect, like Avery Brooks said. No one cared that Rogue One had a female lead, but Disney accused everyone of not liking the ST and Rey because she’s a female lead.
Mae and Osha switch sides at the drop of a hat
Not sure I’d call “learning that everything I have ever been told by the Jedi is a lie and that they’re responsible for all of my pain and grief which they ultimately used as a reason to reject me from the Jedi Order, the one thing I wanted more than anything, and blamed it all on my sister” is the drop of a hat, but go off I guess.
No idea what you’re talking about r.e. queer/lesbian. There wasn’t any girl-on-girl action in the version I watched, they must have cut that out for the version screened in the UK.
Better than Ahsoka? Some fight and the season finale are better but overall? Ahsoka for me has more engaging episodes and likeable characters and better acting overall. Ahsoka is 6.5/10, Acolyte 5/10 for me.
Ahsoka would have been completely forgettable if it didn’t use characters we already cared about, imo. Personally I felt it wasn’t very good, but of course you’re entitled to your own opinion
I’m guessing that the score started low because the people that were going to be unhappy no matter what were the first ones to run to the website to leave bad reviews. I’m guessing most people that did enjoy it just moved on with their lives & wont bother to leave a review anywhere.
So like everything else in life?
Yup, just pointing out that the low score doesn’t mean much. Those people leave behind criticism of everything, of course The Acolyte wasn’t excluded from their wrath. Edit: in other words, there’s no boosting. Those are just reviews from people that liked it coming in.
Those people leave behind criticism of everything, of course The Acolyte wasn’t excluded from their wrath.
I’ve never reviewed a single bit of Star Wars media in my life. The Acolyte was so bad that I felt like sharing my opinion. That’s what many other people have done also.
If you actually look through the reviews the majority of the positive reviews are bland copy/paste generic wording. A suspicious number of them start with “As a long time Star Wars fan” and then go on about the diversity of the cast.
Whereas the critical reviews are all unique with valid criticisms about the story or its execution.
And yet even with the artificial boosting the score is still incredibly low. So low that the other shows with the same rating are unrecognizable trash.
How is it that the people who are always contrary managed to tank this show’s rating far more than any other show out there?
The answer is that they didn’t. A sizable amount of people who genuinely did not like the show have shared their opinions. That’s it.
Those are valid reasons to like a show, though we might not all share that opinion. The critical reviews are also valid, not saying they aren’t.
Personally, I never expect good writing or excellent film quality when it comes to Star Wars since it’s never been well written or anything more than a mid-level movie with an amazingly endearing campy atmosphere, and an excellent & interesting world the story takes place in. Aside from Rogue One & Andor, those are uncharacteristically good for Star Wars properties.
Those are valid reasons to like a show
No, those are valid things to like about a show. But they do not in any way make something good in-of-itself.
You can feel that way dude, it’s ok
So did you like the Acolyte? What did you enjoy about it?
Psh. There are groups of chronically online losers operating out of different discord servers working to control the narrative on the Acolyte. There are groups that do this for video games and there are groups that do this for politics, like the conservatives that control r/Canada on Reddit.
If you are outraged by either side of the manipulation then you have been sucked into the culture war nonsense yourself. You should take a step back and question why this is important to you.
I always like to appreciate the strong aspects of every piece of media. In my view acolyte has not much of them but… no really I have a hard time to say what was good. But who am I to say what others can enjoy or not?
I enjoyed attack of the clones and tpm as a kid and those are some of the most dubious pieces of sw media. I’d probably enjoy all of them if I was younger but my taste changed to now where I only fully enjoy original trilogy basically 4k77 to 83. I would gladly get rid of ewoks for Wookiees though
