• cynar@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    This sort of comic always bugs me. Observation in QM is not the same as observation in layman terms.

    Best think of it as hit it and watch the pieces fly. When you get small enough, you can’t approximate out the impacts. It’s akin to studying road traffic by sending an overloaded freight truck the wrong way and counting tires that hit the verge. It might also affect the current traffic’s motion.

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      4 hours ago

      This is something that I noticed is hard to understand to most people. My SO got served a video of the double slit experiment and thought it was like magic, until I tried to explain to him that at this scale, “observing” doesn’t just mean looking at it. Observation makes you part of the system and causes the system to change.

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        3 hours ago

        That is part of what bugs me.

        Quantum mechanics isn’t magical or unknowable. It’s just an area of physics where some of our base assumptions/approximations break down. It’s not even that hard to wrap your head around, it just seems most people don’t want to try.

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        3 hours ago

        There is a magic to perception nothing else can replicate. I’m pretty sure awareness is existence, so it’s attention has to change reality.

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          3 hours ago

          Perception and observation are different things. Air molecules can be “observers” when looking at electrons etc.

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        3 hours ago

        Lots of folks get their superficial education from memes and will be mislead by this…

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          3 hours ago

          well that’s their own fault, and it’s not like stuff like this is vital information for the average person

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            1 hour ago

            Specifically, because it’s non-vital information for the average person, I really do not think you can blame anyone for merely learning about it through memes. But I do also think this problem is much greater than just memes. I did not receive a better explanation during high school, despite opting for more advanced physics classes and us repeatedly telling our teacher that it makes no sense to us. I have to assume that our teacher did not know either. As such, I got the impression that more advanced physics is just devoid of any actual logic, which was a major factor why I decided against pursuing it further in college. Reading a proper explanation under a stupid meme, could’ve made the difference for me.

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            2 hours ago

            So why are you so upset with us trying to fix it?

            I personally find the anti science, anti learning crowd has gone from amusing, to annoying, to terrifying.

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        3 hours ago

        So was “Donald Trump for president” and look at the damage that has caused.

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      3 hours ago

      Which is what’s so “magical” about it - Newtonian rules seem to break down at the quantum level.

      It was an incredible discovery, and for practically anyone not a physicist, it’s incredibly hard to comprehend. I say this as a not-a-physicist who struggled to comprehend it decades ago, and read several books on the subject to finally get my head around it (as much as a non-physicist can).

      Also, it’s just a meme mate.

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        2 hours ago

        I disagree with it being hard to comprehend. The maths is an absolute bitch, but the basic premise is fairly simple. Everything is (quantised) waves. The rest clicks, once you get your brain to accept this. Everything else is a consequence. Those consequences can lead you down deep dark tunnels, filled with evil maths and mind bending results, but the basic idea is simple.

        I have a bit of an issue with memes that are actively misleading.