Is the ai doing anything that isn’t already allowed for humans. The thing is, generative ai doesn’t copy someone’s art. It’s more akin to learning from someone’s art and creating you own art with that influence. Given that we want to continue allowing hunans access to art for learning, what’s the logical difference to an ai doing the same?

AI stans always say stuff like this, but it doesn’t make sense to me at all.

AI does not learn the same way that a human does: it has no senses of its own with which to observe the world or art, it has no lived experiences, it has no agency, preferences or subjectivity, and it has no real intelligence with which to interpret or understand the work that it is copying from. AI is simply a matrix of weights that has arbitrary data superimposed on it by people and companies.

Are you an artist or a creative person?

If you are then you must know that the things you create are certainly indirectly influenced by SOME of the things that you have experienced (be it walking around on a sunny day, your favorite scene from your favorite movie, the lyrics of a song, etc.), AS WELL AS your own unique and creative persona, your own ideas, your own philosophy, and your own personal development.

Look at how an artist creates a painting and compare it to how generative AI creates a painting. Similarly, look at how artists train and learn their craft and compare it to how generative AI models are trained. It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison. Outside of the marketing labels of “artificial intelligence” and “machine learning”, it’s nothing like real intelligence or learning at all.

(And that’s still ignoring the obvious corporate element and the four pillars of fair use consideration (US law, not UK, mind you). For example, the potential market effects of generating an automated system which uses people’s artwork to directly compete against them.)

Either get rid of copyright for everything and everyone, or don’t.

But no stupid BULLSHIT exception for AI slop.

Does anyone know what reciprocal means?

Just checking.

It’s not a surprise that all these techbros who want to steal everything and feed it into their AI machines without paying a single fucking cent to the original creators all the sudden want to get rid of IP. They can lead by example by submitting their IP into the public domain.

Or maybe they’re just massive frauds?

AI isn’t ready to replace just about anybody’s job, and probably never will be technically, economically or legally viable.

That said, the c-suit class are certainly going to try. Not only do they dream of optimizing all human workers out of every workforce, they also desperately need to recoup as much of the sunk cost that they’ve collectively dumped into the technology.

Take OpenAI for example, they lost something like $5,000,000,000 last year and are probably going to lose even more this year. Their entire business plan relies on at least selling people on the idea that AI will be able to replace human workers. The minute people realize that OpenAI isn’t going to conquer the world, and instead end up as just one of many players in the slop space, the entire bottom will fall out of the company and the AI bubble will burst.

Big tech will do what is best for extracting money customers and investors.

If you really care what your operating system is made of, use Linux.

Jesus, this fucking paranoid bitch can barely string a sentence together. He must be neck deep in the techbro CEO k-hole…

Also, as an Irish leftist, he should leave my people out of his delusional and incoherent ranting.

Pretty reasonable.

it wont

Good that they changed the name.

Look at the date, lmao.

You sound like the type of guy who drives a cybertruck and practices Elons “odd hand gesture” in your bedroom at night.

They fear open source software because it is one of the only thing that threatens their technofascist hegemony.

This only further proves that we are investing in platforms that are chipping away at them.

“open source” “AI”

Right for the wrong reasons.

The best and most affordable way for Elon Musk to “make the world a better place” would be to drop dead.

i think this is old spice admitting that xAI is total bullshit

Well, to be 100% fair, it’s all total bullshit.

Snowden really proved he wasn’t a Russian spy when he… check notes… immediately fled to Russia with troves of American secrets…

the accepted terminology nowadays

Let’s just redefine existing concepts to mean things that are more palatable to corporate control why don’t we?

If you don’t have the ability to build it yourself, it’s not open source. Deepseek is “freeware” at best. And that’s to say nothing of what the data is, where it comes from, and the legal ramifications of using it.

Even in GPL and CC-BY-SA context you still retain copyright ownership over your work. I write GPL code for a modest living, and my real name copyright goes on everything I write. Likewise, your still asking to be credited in your CC-BY-SA music. Nothing wrong with that.

The point being is that we are making a conscious decision to license the things we create in a permissive way. Neither of us are anonymously dumping our work into the public domain because clearly we do care about ownership and copyright. That’s well within our rights as creators.

Generative AI is exploiting our work and not even doing the bare minimum of following the licenses that we shared them under.