Oh yes of course, the whole world has of course been watching the mass protests and general strike being organized with baited breath, oh wait.

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Come on doc, you’ve gotta help us, we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!

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Jesus fucking christ. If you do this, and exploit Ukraine while they are literally under the gun, the US will be dead to the rest of the western world.

I cannot express how hard you can go fuck yourselves.

The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans. Fuck you, you selfish, coward, pieces of shit.

Yes, but I would point out that:

a) a bunch of those commercially supported Foss projects still started out as a personal project of one of a small handful of programmers that then got popular and exploded.

b) more importantly yes, a lot of commercially useful FOSS is developed by paid developers working at tech companies as part of their line of work, stuff like browsers, languages, frameworks, packages, etc. but a lot of the most iconic and beloved consumer facing FOSS applications are not, as at that point if theyre non exploitative then there’s no reason for a corporation to support or build on them. Corporations prefer to support Foss infrastructure that’s so general they can still use it to build closed exploitative projects.

One aspect of FOSS that most people don’t appreciate is how it’s funded. Like how it’s actually funded.

Once you put a dollar value to the hours put into it, it fairly quickly becomes apparent that most FOSS projects are basically only possible because super rich software engineers (relative to the average person) have the relative luxury to be able to dedicate a ton of free time and effort to building something they think should exist.

It’s why there was a huge FOSS boom after the dot com crash when a ton of software engineers suddenly got laid off but were relatively wealthy enough to not have massive pressure to immediately start grinding a 9-5 again.

I agree, this article title is literally introducing and teasing the game that he created based on his label of working on a different, more successful game that he was a small part of:

‘ex wow dev’

Makes me think another hack might be riding big names on a resume to get games bloggers to write about you

Picking out random people to lionize too much while you demonize literally everyone else, is still being cynical.

Correct. We do not know the training data, which makes it silly to decide that it is definitely cribbed from OpenAI’s model. What we do know is how the code works, because it is open and they wrote a paper. What would you consider “evidence,” if not the actual code and then a highly detailed explanation from the authors about how it works, and then some independent testing and interpretation by known experts? Do you want it carved on a golden tablet or something?

Because the paper does not prove what DeepSeek is claiming. The paper outlines a number of clever techniques that might help to improve efficiency, but most researchers are still incredibly skeptical that they would add up to a full order of magnitude less compute power required for training.

Until someone else uses DeepSeek’s techniques to openly train a comparable model off non-distilled data, we have no reason to believe their method is replicable.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence ( or really just concrete, replicable, evidence), and we don’t have that, at least not yet.

They HAVE done that. It’s one of the techniques they use to produce things like o1 mini models and the other mini models that run on device.

But that’s not a valid technique for creating new foundation models, just for creating refined versions of existing models. You would never have been able to create for instance, an o1 model from Chat PT 3.5 using distillation.

If that was all he said, I would have no issue with that. But no, he spent 10,000 words padding that sentiment out with as much tripe and snark as he could.

Lmfao, so now Lemmy thinks that the stock market is an arbiter of value and truth?

I’m sure you really thought that one through. You seem incapable of understanding nuance or thinking through your points, so maybe sit a few conversations out and reflect on the fact that you immediately defaulted to thinking of me as a moustache twirling villain.

Look up the definition of the word cynical. It means, more or less, asserting that no one is motivated by sincere integrity. Accusing some specific people of lacking integrity, while holding up others as good examples of integrity that everyone should aspire to, is the opposite of cynicism.

Yeah, I know the definition of the word, and I meant what I said. Stop trying to think I said something else because you disagree.

He is incredibly cynical.

He thinks everyone in the tech industry is a moustache twirling villain and always ascribes malice where incompetence would do. Like I said, he’s who you listen to when you want to hear someone go on an unhinged rant about everyone being evil, not someone with an accurate view of human nature or motivations.

He doesn’t address very much the idea that DeepSeek “distilled” their model from OpenAI’s model and others specifically because that is just a rumor with very minimal evidence for it.

There is very minimal evidence for literally EVERYTHING he writes about in this article. The whole talk of them working around the GPU restrictions also has incredibly minimal evidence and is just a rumour.

Once again, his motivation is not informing you, it’s dunking in the tech industry. It’s literally his entire persona and career.

The “rumors” you say he discusses about novel ways the Chinese researchers found to outperform OpenAI are based on an extremely detailed look at their paper and their code, as interpreted by experts.

No, they’re not. He just portrays it that way because that makes the tech industry sound bad. We flat out do not know how they trained Deepseek’s model.

Once again, I don’t care that he’s mean to any tech titan, I care that he’s misinforming people because it’s the easiest path to dunking on an industry that he has a preexisting vendetta against.

Wanting a better world, and holding up a light to the current one to show the differences between what could be and what is, is not at all what “cynical” means. “Cynical” is the opposite of what you mean. “Pessimistic” or “negative” is definitely more apt, yes.

No, I said cynical and I meant cynical.

I don’t care that he criticizes the tech industry, I care that he feels the innate need to portray everyone in it as moustache twirling villains, rather than normal people caught up in the same capitalist systems and pressures as everyone else.

Even here, he spends all the article focusing on rumours about Chinese researchers making novel ways to outperform OpenAI and the like, and just makes a dismissive joke about the accusations that they effectively trained their model using OpenAI’s model. Regardless of whether or not you agree with the morality of ignoring copyright to copy a copier, it’s an incredibly important point because that is not a replicable strategy for actually creating new models. But rather than address that in any way, he dismisses it in a paragraph to spend another couple thousand words trying to dunk on the western tech industry in the snarkiest tone possible.

Lol, Ed Zirtron is very paralleled.

He’s pessimistic and cynical to the point of being conspiratorial and delusional.

He’s someone to listen to when you want to hear someone go on an unhinged rant about the tech industry, not someone you listen to when you want to actually understand how it works.

I mean look at this trash article, he spends 5000 words saying effectively nothing. Things he could have explained by just linking to pre-existing, better written articles, instead, he rehashes everything in a snarky tone while skipping over some of the most important points (like training through distillation).

They’re not banning Mastodon, or the Fediverse, or EU based messaging apps.

i.e. the objection is not that the US government doesn’t control it, but that the Chinese government does.

This is dumb. Moore’s law may be mostly dead, but chips are still progressing at an absurd pace. In 6 years you’ll be able to run the o1 model on a raspberry Pi with no internet access.

It’s typical for tech companies to reorganize because they are losing cash, yes.

Who cares. Find a new game.