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  • pebbles@sh.itjust.workstoTechnology@lemmy.worldWhy Gen Z Is Ditching Dating Apps
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    10 days ago

    For your proposition of equal horniness to be true, one of two must be true: A)women are so repressed they don’t even want sexual materials in which case, even if it’s cultural and not biological, women are functionally less horny or B) they are so terrified that someone will bust in and search their web history which seems kind of a bizzare amount of repression.

    This is an extremely uninspired list. Let me help.

    1. Women could be put off from watching porn when first introduced due the male centered industry and generally less acceptance of their sexual expression leading to longer term differences in how they get their fix.
    2. The smut industry while not as lucrative could produce more sexual stimulation per dollar. I know there is a lot of pirating in the smut community. And books take a while to get through.
    3. Porn sites may not capture gender from their user base perfectly.
    4. Again, there are a lot of ways to get off for free. Any women could get on a dating app and get their fix in half a day.
    5. Women centered porn sites may not make as much per view.

    I could keep going, but its becoming more work. My point is that there is way too much wiggle room in the money argument. You just can’t account for how our culture affects their expression unless you’ve studied it.

    Economics is much better for studying how money moves. Idk why we would use it to try and generalize the experiences of a group. It is exceptionally indirect and biased. It is a silly thing to use as a foundation for that kind of belief.

    Edit: removed snarky comment, I was feeling a bit hot

    Edit: just stumbled on this video, but its whole point is about how the different genders interact with sex differently: https://youtu.be/Qfpj5qQr9KA?si=F-fTAWOPZOK206cD


  • I think any large platform will need to moderate, and moderation is gonna be biased and human.

    Saying American’s on Lemmy hate the vales America stands for is quite an assertion. That means your idea of what ‘America sands for’ isn’t sensetive to everyone in America. I’d think on what that means about how you construct your idea of the nation.

    A nations vales are necessarily diverse. Even if founding documents or what not says otherwise. Those documents don’t represent everyone and they are not infallible.

    I don’t think you can hate a countries values because a country doesn’t value as one entity. My values are American values even if we disagree.

    Maybe try and join things in your local community. They likely think more like ya want, and may have just the mix of opinions you disagree with that ya want.

    Maybe you need to make your own community? I’m also pretty sure there are some right leaning Lemmy instances, so I feel like a middle ground may exist for you somewhere.


  • I agree that it can look like that at a glance, but why would we expect spending to reflect horniness when sexual expression is less accepted for women in many rich countries? Can you say to what degree that affects it? They may feel just as much hornyness and express it more privately. How can you be confident?

    I admit, that if you look at the economic you presented, men spend more on sexual stuff. That is a fine conclusion. But it says very little to me about who is more horny.


  • Homie idk how many times I gotta say it. I’m agnostic to who’s more horny. I get why I seem stubborn.

    You can believe what you want. Your evidence is too indirect to convince me.

    I really think we’re arguing slightly different things though. Like it is even important for me say wealth inequality in the world means that sex spending better represents rich countries interests? Therefore has a very very large cultural bias. Not abstact, real cultures are different. Lots of people are unaccounted in your metric, and lots of peope are extremely over counted.

    I can be convinced, you just haven’t done it. I am not confident the data is out there. Spending definitely has too many flaws to be a good indicator.


  • I’m pretty sure neurodivergence and learning disabilities are nearly synonyms. I know it’s a square-rectangle relationship but I think most can parse what ya mean with context. Fair if you can’t. Seeing as ya stated you have some learning disability and idk what it is.

    My girlfriend has pretty intense ADHD and has had lots of intense ups and downs with school. If you want me to ask her anything I’d be happy to.


  • pebbles@sh.itjust.workstoTechnology@lemmy.worldWhy Gen Z Is Ditching Dating Apps
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    12 days ago

    What would prove it to me? Good question it’d have to be grounded. I don’t like to claim I know things I can’t know. Who’s hornier is just such a tough question. Everyone experiences hornyness in different ways and we can’t really order them or make equivalences easily.

    Basically there’d have to be a good definition of “this action equals this much hornyness” and I haven’t seen anything presented that can measure that in a satisfactory way.

    I mean I could draw a hot picture for myself for free and that wouldn’t be counted in the frame “horniness is measured in money”. I really am not convinced by the money stats. Sex is often free.

    I really don’t think we have the tools to answer this question. At least I haven’t seen them.

    Edit: spelling



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    I get a little lost in the sauce when I get typing. I stand by most of what I said, but maybe some isn’t pertinent.

    Let me try and be super clear. In my sample women are more horny than men. In yours it is the other way.

    Giving examples of men being outwardly sexual doesn’t prove that they feel it more. Just because more businesses cater to men doesn’t mean they feel it more. You are giving very surface level and indirect proof and calling it evidence.

    I’m not working in abstract land, just not your land I guess.

    Edit: I checked, the argument is about your evidence being mid. That’s been my position from the start. I don’t even agree that men and women are equally horny, but I don’t think you disproved it with strip clubs.