What’s that they say about the definition of insanity? Something about towing with a Cybertruck, probably.
Here’s a video to watch for a laugh, a Cybertruck towing over light snow… with predictable results.
As the truck loses traction, the trailer jackknifes like it just remembered it had somewhere to be, slams into the back of the Cybertruck, and then nails a tree for good measure. The best part? The driver shouting, with perfect comedic timing, “NOT AGAIN!”
I could carry that much lumber on the roof of my subaru lol
Fuck the cyber truck and all, but there is clearly a lot of ice under that snow. It’s probably a road that isn’t plowed, and salted / sanded often. If the road, mass, and acceleration are correct, it doesn’t matter if you have AWD or 4WD.
He’s on an icy road, towing, and on an incline. Dude should have snow tires, chains, or should throw some sand down or something.
The driver is as dumb as his purchase.
Blew the whole budget on the Tesla, didn’t have any money left over for sand XD
Fuck the cybertruck but I agree. To me, it looks like a firm layer of ice and a distinct lack of tires which can handle ice or chains failing that. Cybertruck’s weight is doing it no favors here either, and the load helped pull him down the hill. Chains would have made a huge difference in this condition.
It reminds me of when I drive to a ski town in California, like Tahoe. It’s always full of weekend warriors with little winter driving experience, and expensive AWD / 4WD vehicles.
20 years ago it was Hummers stuck in the snow banks, now it’s Cybertrucks. Also, there is always a healthy smattering of lifted pickups chuds and WRXs drivers who think they’re playing the winter level in Colin McRay Rally.
You never see the slow driving minivan with chains stuck in the banks.
Can someone explain why he stopped accelerating when he started sliding back and seemed to just brake?
I get laying off the accelerator for a bit and sliding back a bit to get out of a rut, but he just gave up.
in most cars the brakes make it stop, even if it’s going backwards
Get out of here with your fancy logic
Couldn’t watch this one but I saw one using an excavator to test the tongue weight of a CT, basically measuring the pressure while pushing on the (steel) tow hitch until it completely broke and exposed a lot of glue.
Hitch broke at almost exactly the official Tesla number
Odd fact about the cyber truck, it reacts to damage like anything aluminum, you can never repair the damage that time and driving will do. You can never make a crumpled piece of aluminium foil flat and shiny and smooth again.
New wrinkle in the “buying a car is buying an immediately and rapidly depreciating asset” category
I think you’re talking about the JerryRigEverything video
Hitch broke at almost exactly the official Tesla number
The hitch broke at almost exactly the claimed towing capacity. Of course that means if you’re towing exactly at capacity and hit the tiniest bump you’ve now snapped your car in half.
I feel like my Toyota, the towing limit on the spec sheet doesn’t mean “after this number, the hitch snaps off.” For legal reasons, I need to state that that is only a guess, and that I have not tested it on anything but private roads.
For gods sake, the limit should have at least a 25% buffer. 1% buffer is madness. Toyotas, we don’t even know what the buffer is, it’s large enough that I’ve never met anyone who got nerve-wrackingly close to it. I’ve certainly never met a Toyota driver who’s frame or hitch has snapped off. I’ve now seen like 5 Cybertrucks with the whole towing assembly just tumbled across asphalt.
25% is even way too low. Factor of Safety is the term you’re looking for, which is generally 2x or more depending on the field. Most of the equipment I’ve ever worked on had a minimum 3x safety factor meaning the actual limits were 3x what the ratings indicated.
A quick search gave me the result of a safety factor of at least 2 for rigging and recovery components on vehicles.
That’s not true. You absolutely can make folded aluminum flat again. You just have to melt it down. Which seems to be the solution people are taking to cyber trucks.
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I think the Cybertruck is perfect. Nothing encapsulates the disconnect of the market to meet essential needs of the many, replaced by icons void of any utility to sate the appetites of the few.
Accurate title
Indeed. Left nothing to the imagination. Would check out again. 10/10
We strive for accuracy here at FuelArc News XD If the story is simple enough, we sometimes even achieve it!
This is nothing to do with the Cybertruck and everything to do with tires. Although weighing 7k lbs. doesn’t help.
That’s part of the story (though, why did Tesla ship a luxury truck with such trash tires?). Weight is a actually good thing in light snow. If you have low traction, you can actually add weight to the truck bed to get better traction. Folks in my neck the woods put sandbags and stuff in their beds to do exactly that.
Keep your eyes on what the tires are doing in the video. See how they’re rolling at all the wrong times, and then locking up at all the wrong times? That’s an electronic system failing, that’s probably the Automatic Traction Control, and evidently it doesn’t know what the fuck to do with snow.
You put sandbags in the bed of a truck to get more traction on the rear wheels for acceleration purposes. The sandbags in the bed are going to make your situation worse if you have to try and stop with no traction.
It’s not so much adding weight as it is where that weight is distributed. Pickups are rear wheel drive and a depressing number of them are two wheel drive only. There’s plenty of weight in a truck but in an empty one it’s all in the wrong place: Not over the rear axle. If you could take the engine out of a pickup truck and throw it in the bed somehow while keeping the thing running you could leave its net weight exactly the same and significantly increase its drive wheel traction in slippery conditions.
Your note on the traction control system is right on the nose. In situations like this it is often beneficial to turn it off. Its goal is to prevent wheel spin, but when some amount of wheel spin is unavoidable in your bid to scrabble for progress, it’s counterproductive. I have no idea if it can actually be sufficiently disabled in a Cybertruck, though, and I don’t care to bother to find out.
A rear wheel drive truck is actually the best for all truck situations other than when empty in harsh conditions. Work truck will frequently be towing something, and towing heavy loads works better with rear wheel drive than front wheel drive. Same with a bed full of heavy stuff. When it starts moving forward the weight shifts back, improving traction. Letting off the gas and having the engine brake is better with the rear wheels as well, only the brakes need to be heavier in the front.
The engine weight being in the front is actually a benefit when moving large loads in the bed or trailer, as it balances against the load shifting towards the back, improving steering. Not to mention a straight drive shaft from the engine can take more stress than front wheel CV joints under load.
Yeah, AWD should be better overall for trucks that don’t stick to main roads. But construction and other work doesn’t go offroading often and 2wd trucks do fine for that purpose 99% of the time.
All of this is true, with one glaring detail: 99% of owners of these trucks drive around with the bed empty all the time anyway, or at most with some groceries or something in the back.
Those people bought the wrong vehicle.
It’s a cybertruck. That much is given.
why did Tesla ship a luxury truck with such trash tires
They’re not “trash” tires, they’re just not snow tires.
Weight is a actually good thing in light snow
That’s a common misconception. No, it is not.
Folks in my neck the woods put sandbags and stuff in their beds to do exactly that.
Another common misconception. You don’t put sandbags to increase weight, you put them in to redistribute the weight over the drive axle. Ideally you would relocate the engine into the bed, but that obviously comes with it’s own problems. CT is actually an advantage in this regard since the vast majority of the weight is low and central.
That’s an electronic system failing
No it is not.
evidently it doesn’t know what the fuck to do with snow.
It cannot do anything with tires that are not intended for snow.
You’re also starting fights over on another thread of mine so… I guess this scratches some itch for you!
Boss, you do you. Call me if you need a tow.
Sorry, who are you? If you consider correcting disinformation as “starting fights” then sure, I have a penchant for that. I wont need a tow because I don’t drive a CT (or any truck for that matter) and it doesn’t snow here, but I appreciate the offer.
Being a cybertruck has everything to do with weighing 7k lbs.
Not really. Plenty of other trucks that weigh 6-7k lbs.
Edit: since I’m being downvoted by uninformed dummies
- Silverado EV: 8500 lbs.
- F150 Lightning: 6500 lbs.
- Rivian R1T: 7000 lbs.
- Hummer EV: 9000 lbs.
- F250 diesel: 7000 lbs.
- 2WD Silverado 2500 RWD: 6000 lbs.
If you want to make the argument that pickup trucks are a bad choice for driving in the snow, I will wholeheartedly agree. If you want to argue that the Cybertruck is exceptionally bad vs. other pickups, you’re going to need more evidence.
Thank you for being a reasoning human being.
Those are not the same tires. That’s pointed out several times in the comments of that thread. The Cybertruck has very easily recognized 1-off tires.
Of course a Fiat Panda will outperform it but now you’re comparing Apples and Oranges.
Call me when you have an actual objective comparison and not a TikTok video.
Teslas have dogwater traction control on anything but dry pavement.
And this assessment is based on what?
It’s 100% driver skill issue.
The cybertruck not only complements the amusement, but it results in a lack of empathy from the viewer, bc schaedenfraude.Yup, this is 100% a driver created problem. I know that Tesla and the CT are hated right now but the CT easily has the ability to pull that trailer on that trail it’s just that the driver doesn’t know WTF they’re doing.
