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Hardware vs software solution?
Technically, all the colors are fake. They’re just the halucinations of a brain trying to understand the input from sensory organs.
That doesn’t make them fake, in the same way that x can mean 2. You are merely representing a given value (in this case light within a certain electromagnetic spectrum) in a useful way.
But is my red the same as your red? Hmmm?
if two people can both point to red and agree that it’s red, that’s close enough. anything beyond that is just pointless esoteric debate.
I disagree that it’s pointless. I think it may be beneficial to humanity (eventually) to establish whether or not there is an objective reality which we all experience.
There is no way to “establish whether or not there is an objective reality.” It’s a philosophical position. You either take the reality which we observe and study as part of the material sciences to be objective reality, or you don’t believe it’s objective reality and think it is all sort of invented in the “mind” somehow. Either position you take, you cannot prove or disprove either one, because even if you take the latter position, no evidence I present to you could change your mind because to be presented evidence would only mean for that evidence to appear in the mind, and thus wouldn’t prove anything. The best argument we can make is just taking the reality we observe as indeed reality is just philosophically simpler, but that also requires you to philosophically value simplicity, which you cannot prove what philosophical principles we should value with science either.
i agree, but that’s a job for neuroscience, quantum mechanics, and psychology; not a pack of dorks on the fediverse.
But I want to contribute to humanity in a meaningful way!
-me, a dork on the Fediverse nearly incapable of contributing to humanity in a meaninful way
Hey now, you could be the person to force manufacturers to add a new type of warning label to random products!
buy guns
it’s more in the philosophy ballpark, which shapes the interpretration of methodology and the consequences, in my humble opinion.
But what if the dorks on the fediverse are scientists?
then by all means
It was a joke?
hahaha?
Ehehehe
Some people see numbers instead/along with colors, and different people see different numbers, so I guess the colors might be different between people too
I would be way more surprised if people who saw numbers with colors all saw the same numbers.
I hadn’t thought about it that way.
No, colors are real. And you see them.
Pink isn’t real. There is no wavelength of light that is pink.
Clearly, it’s light-ish red.
Its bright red, maybe toward purple! Brown is dark orange.
This person colors
Light frequencies between blue and red don’t exist.
Pink is real, or you couldn’t see it. And you couldn’t see it unless light was bringing it to your eyes.
For pink light to be perceived, it needs red cones to fully react, and both green and blue cones to only partially activate.
https://gizmodo.com/if-the-color-pink-doesnt-scientifically-exist-why-can-1464266788
The definition of color from Merriam/Webster.
a : a phenomenon of light (such as red, brown, pink, or gray) or visual perception that enables one to differentiate otherwise identical objects b (1) : the aspect of the appearance of objects and light sources that may be described in terms of hue, lightness, and saturation (see SATURATION sense 4) for objects and hue, brightness, and saturation for light sources
Wavelength of green light = 550nm
Wavelength of pink light = N/A
I guess we disagree.
I stand with Merriam/Websters definition of color. You are using a different definition.
Really wish talking about what shrimp see didn’t remind me that in farming them females have one eye removed to promote breeding
I am eternally gratefull the practice is forbidden in Europe in organic cultivation. It’s one of the small wins that fly under the radar. It’s still a long way to people choosing for organic, awareness is the start of every change.
Can’t fix what you don’t know is wrong.
Anyone who eats shrimp should absolutely read this.
I need to use wherewithal more in my daily life
Every lunar month, when there is a full moon, i try quitting caffeine
werewithdrawal
(I initially misread you comment)
I wish I had the wherewithal to use it more often.
My whole world is crumbling
But compared with human eyesight, they could still see more ‘colors’ - As we see (almost) the same white in incandescent bulbs as LEDs and fluorescents, they might actually see the component colors and their intensities.
Not unlike how we may hear a combination tone when multiple other tones are played, and hear the difference (or sum) of them.
How would you suggest they do that. White light near equally activates our 3 cones because all spectrums of light are in it.
White light near equally activates all 12 shrimp cones because all spectrums of light are in it.
Which spectrum of color is left out of white light that wouldn’t light up a cone associated with it?
Because white light from an LED bulb is not all spectrums of light. It’s 3. It’s pure red, pure green, and pure blue that stimulates our cones equally so our brain can’t tell the difference. Like how TVs can make any color out of just three colors of sub pixel.
White light from an incandescent bulb is all spectrums of light. Through a prism it makes a rainbow. White LEDs through a prism make three stripes. For more information of this and some visuals check out this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_rendering_index
6500k vs 5000k is noticeable for humans
Imagine how OP their colour perception would be if they did have that mental processing power
Oh that explains this scene
So are any animals actually capable of seeing the invisible spectrums of light? Because humans technically can see them, since we make tools that allow us to. Suck on that, other animals. 😤
Like infrared and ultraviolet? Yeah, there are animals that see those.
And all the other stuff we yse to see celestial objects and communicate long distance. Our phones are able to see colours we can’t!
I’ve been thinking about how a species with a metal horn could evolve to use it as a radio and even a hive mind.
Imagine aliens attacking us but getting fucked because their hive mind works on the same frequency of radio or wifi.
Imagine airdropping a meme directly into the brain of an alien
I’m imagining the martians from Mars Attacks but instead of saying “we come in peace” they’re saying “skibidi toilet” and then their head explodes, like when they hear yodeling.
In my head as they evolve and learn how it works they customize their antenna to fit their needs. But yeah, that would be funny. Like Signs but shorter. They land somewhere quiet electromagnetically. Could even make it one of those super sensitive telescopes you can’t take any devices near for a bit of dramatic irony. There are some frequencies that are more quiet than others but most are pretty noisy. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to time travel to the past and see how much noise there is compared to now.
I’m pretty sure if it worked on any frequency in the charged electromagnetic spectrum, they would get completely screwed long before they made it to earth.
As a qualified amateur operator, the radio spectrum is noisy.
Seems limited. Pheromone mix is far more suitable for a hive mind.
Good luck sending messages that bounce off the atmosphere without RF though.
Birds ?
I’m not gonna pretend I understand the magic words here https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsif.2019.0295
They still taste good. So they got that going for them I guess.
I’m not a fan, but that’s neither here nor there. I’m weird.
I’m just not sure that flavor can be considered a positive character trait?
Maybe I’m stupid. Who knows? Clearly not me.
Maybe you taste good at least.
I also would not know about that.
Its the crunchy nature that I find appealing, the flavor is only okay by itself.
I like them in salad rolls, with marinara dip, and deep fried.
Usually you take the shell off before eating
I hate that it invalidates this episode of radiolab, which is, without a doubt, a masterpiece of podcasting:
https://youtu.be/jibvu9BHV_k?t=795
i saved the video at the 13 minute mark where they do the audio representation of the vivid colors. still worth a watch/listen
Blue blue green greeeeeeeeeeennnnn
super super ultravioleeeeet
Disappointed. But didn’t the have receptors for differently polarized light? What about that?
Color me appointed, at least we’re not missing out on fresh new colors!
Polarization filters on retinal photoreceptor won’t make light wavelength (color) be perceived different, it just changes the conditions in which it’s detected. If those polarized cells would cover unique colors compared to the rest, it would kinda resemble the highlight effect in Mirror’s Edge, where something with a different angle than the surroundings stand out (sudden color gradient)
I don’t think of it as drama so much as docucomedy.
They can still see true magenta though.
!lemmysilver
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